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Is Freedom from Conditioning Really Possible?
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2 minute K anecdote: conditioning and time

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what happens when the mind goes beyond thought? and does it [ever]?

is the whole idea of going beyond thought just an idea. "...a verbal convention connection." i love that picture, it fleshes out the danger there in that thought. like a confection, a tasty piece of cake, a croissant dripping with melted butter and jam, it sounds good, tastes good and then it is gone, consumed.

what happens when mind goes beyond thought? sees beyond thought? when thought has come to its natural end? when I, the thinker, seeing firsthand,…

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Posted by godavego on September 1, 2014 at 8:18am

the perceiver and the perceived...

the word perception may be one of those words at the root of our confusion about duality. we tend to think of the word perception as a self-less act. an illumination; a state of meditation. perceiving the world as it is sounds so right.

 

when in fact perceiving requires a perceiver, the king-pin in the process of duality. like attending and the attended, there is the attender who has divided himself from his attended item(s) to work on them. his attending or his attention may…

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Posted by godavego on August 31, 2014 at 8:00am — 6 Comments

End of Mankind?

I wholeheartedly believe "K" was generations ahead of his time in his understanding of human behavior and what makes us tick. Among the many questions I am left with after repeatedly listening to innumerous hours of his many videos over the years, the one that puzzles me the most is: If there was an actual transformation in the global society and every human being acquired his understanding and vision, what would happen to procreation?

What would be the spark to make people copulate,…

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Posted by Jonas Oak on August 30, 2014 at 9:56pm — 17 Comments

Desire May Be Something Entirely Different

What is my approach to desire? Am I a slave to it, a particular desire. Do I justify desire, condemn it, either give in to the yearning or repress it, suppress it or do I have some escape, a sublimation, or does it become something extremely important, a thing to be cherished? What if I do none of these things? What if I don't resist as I habitually and pretty much unconsciously do. What if I am completely passive with regard to any desire, so passive that the desire is me, there is absolutely… Continue

Posted by MJK on August 29, 2014 at 1:48pm — 6 Comments

maybe you and me and they are creating time trying so hard to see this

while living in time!

 

you are the world, you are time, and there it is within and without. occupying our internal and external vision, hearing, perception.

 

it having already solidified into formal ideas and beliefs, rock solid conclusions; we are never out of time.

imagined conclusions seem solid and real, real in one world, even manifested physically...

 

while unreal in the other, fabricated images…

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Posted by godavego on August 28, 2014 at 1:00pm — 5 Comments

Benjamin Fulford - August 26, 2014: Major fall offensive against Nazionists begins despite continuing cabal threats of mass murder

Major fall offensive against Nazionists begins despite continuing cabal threats of mass murder…

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Posted by Vince on August 28, 2014 at 12:34am

‘Road to Rishi Konda’ by Geetha Waters

From Geetha,

Dear All,

I have been working on a series of short stories for several years to illustrate the impact of Krishnamurti’s holistic approach to education. Christine Williams (the author of Jiddu Krishnamurti The World Philosopher) and I have selected a series of 20 stories to give a general and broad outline of the way the mind engages with inquiry and self reflection from the early years. Hopefully there will be growing interest in the area and I can continue writing…

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Posted by Peter Stephens on August 27, 2014 at 3:00am — 1 Comment

"…the moment you conceive of its opposite you condemn it and therefore you cannot see it as it is. "

this is a subject that I have been observing and talking about with several friends as of late and for the past several years as well. it is, as far as i can see, the main barrier to slipping into that unforced state of meditation whereupon we see ourselves as we are and see clearly our brain active in its normal everyday activities.

it is an ongoing problem. each response covers up the real preventing contact with and therefore comprehension of reality.…

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Posted by godavego on August 26, 2014 at 1:00pm — 15 Comments

Awareness, Insight much ado about no-thing

To read, in the occult sense, is to read with the eyes of the spirit.

To ask is to feel the hunger within--the yearning of spiritual aspiration.

To be able to read means having obtained the power in a small degree of gratifying that hunger.

..When the disciple is ready to learn, then he is accepted, acknowledged, recognized.

It must be so, for he has lit his lamp, and it cannot be hidden.

But to learn is impossible…

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Posted by Lyn Mccormack on August 24, 2014 at 8:53pm — 20 Comments

... and there is only the dance.

At the still point of the turning world. Neither flesh nor fleshless;

Neither from nor towards; at the still point, there the dance is,

But neither arrest nor movement. And do not call it fixity,

Where past and future are gathered. Neither movement from nor towards,

Neither ascent nor decline. Except for the point, the still point,

There would be no dance, and there is only the…

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Posted by rachMiel on August 23, 2014 at 8:00am — 5 Comments

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    What is it that sees the limitation of thought? 144 Replies

    Thought is responsible for all the cruelty, the wars, the war machines and the brutality of war, the killing, the terror, the throwing of bombs, the taking of hostages in the name of a cause, or without a cause.Thought is also responsible for the cathedrals, the beauty of their structure, the lovely poems; it is also responsible for all the technological development, the computer with its extraordinary capacity to learn and go beyond man's thought. What is thinking? It is a response, a…Continue

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    The right to defend onself 21 Replies

    When the killing becomes so disproportionate what does one do, as a spectator?Continue

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    What is my responsibility for the confusion in the world? 141 Replies

    The world: it means other people, society.Seeing that society is confused - fragmented, divided, violent, et cetera - what is my responsibility for all this?Continue

    Started by Paul D. Last reply by Paul D yesterday.

    What's on the other side of the hill? 7 Replies

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    Start with meditation. 4 Replies

    To say, start with meditation, causes many problems. There is this suggested instruction and activity. Not to forget all the discussion which may arise about words and meaning. Yet it is true were I to say, I am doing meditation, this is not meditation. But there is another problem, and that is not initiating awareness, attention, contemplation, something like that, not initiating it at all, and continuing in thought and not initiating an activity free of thought. I understand this is a large…Continue

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    WHAT IS MY PLACE IN LIFE? 42 Replies

    To examine my own thinking requires some thinking. I am aware of thinking and what comes next is more thinking. In examining thought and following up automatically with thought it is a mechanical process of breaking down words and ideas called analysis. However if in this examination it is followed by negating thought, there is no residual thought, leaving no breakdown, no analysis. What is left is something to discover.I am thinking. What is thinking? It is I, me. The thinking is me. This is…Continue

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    Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens Aug 20.

    Are we free to enquire, to perceive truth and to act? Are we free? 121 Replies

    Enquiring, perceiving and acting are the fundamental parts of a holistic movement which contains both its own origin and its own destination. This holistic movement of meditation can only take place in a mind which is free and uncluttered: free from beliefs, opinions and, above all, free from fear. It is only such a free mind that can act sanely and healthily on this earth.So the question is: are we free? Those of us who don't care for this question will either ignore it altogether or else…Continue

    Started by Paul D. Last reply by Paul D Aug 19.

    IS FREEDOM FROM CONDITIONING REALLY POSSIBLE? A Talk delivered to the Krishnamurti Foundation of America By Prof. Hillary Rodrigues Ojai, California on August 28, 2010 7 Replies

    Just now read the article mentioned in the Title above and writing down the conditioned responses of my mind! (1)Unconditioning is possible through observation-'K' Says and I accept it as truth because I don`t see any reason for 'K' to lie!. May be 'K' can be mistaken but he lived a full life and had he found that freedom from conditioning is impossible he would have said that also!!It is difficult to believe that 'K' categorically made a statement and unchanged it throughout his life for the…Continue

    Started by s s v ramana rao. Last reply by s s v ramana rao Aug 12.

    "Can I, as a human being, lead a different kind of life?" 10 Replies

    Why ask this question? Doesn't the asking imply, quite subtly perhaps, that the kind of life currently being led is somehow inferior, incomplete? And that, with *awareness* it could become better, more intelligent, kinder, more filled with love? And isn't that just another version of The Becoming Game? What does it mean to lead a life? Isn't "leading a life" a metaphor, an assigning of a time-bound label to a time-unbounded actuality? And who's asking the question in the first place? An…Continue

    Started by rachMiel. Last reply by tree Aug 9.

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