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I don't know have you ever glimpsed the movement of thought in the brain? It is very bizarre. There is a mutitude of diverse images in a vast crazy activity. It is impossible to make sense of it. It is this immediate perception of all of this mixed packets of life, intensely active, out of control, in chaos, which I guess at attempting to make sense of, or to relate to in some way, and that is terrifying. While seeing the mass of moving images, it is like there is an instinct for…
ContinuePosted by Peter Stephens on May 17, 2013 at 8:00pm — 26 Comments
"As long as there is a time interval between the observer and the observed it creates friction and therefore there is a waste of energy. That energy is gathered to its highest point when the observer is the observed, in which there is no time interval at all. Then there will be energy without motive and it will find its own channel of action because then the 'I' does not exist.
Freedom from the Known,120
“And so long as you haven't experienced
this: to die and so to grow,
you are only a troubled guest
on the dark earth.”
Goethe
She walked around at the end of her life,…
ContinuePosted by Carolyn Studer on May 15, 2013 at 12:30pm
I got this fortune cookie the other night at a Chinese restaurant.
First I thought "fortune=future, finding is time-binding."
Then I thought "Find the truth in time!"
Not "in time" like "before it's too late" but "in time" like "actually as it happens in time."
K might say time is psychological, that's the truth of it, and thus the timeless is when thought/becoming ends.
I say also, if you move in time with time, as…
ContinuePosted by anon on May 12, 2013 at 6:00pm — 7 Comments
The “I” is the past, therefore it is the known. “Freedom from the known” is freedom from the “I”. You are the content of your consciousness, of what you can know, which implies again the “I” which is the “I” of all the different/various fragments of “you”, of “your” memories, of everything “you” like/dislike. If you cannot say “I” for all these different fragments, you will not be able to free yourself from these fragments, from the known, from the “I”. If one of the fragments dominates the…
ContinueIn the universities they expect you to be intelligent within their own frame work of what they call "ethics" and intelligence is graded as A student or B student and so on. Krishnamurti denies the academic intelligence as being limited and therefore not intelligence at all.
Posted by Behy on May 10, 2013 at 11:29am — 19 Comments
The re-doubtable Deepak Chopra quoted the following exchange, which I have not been able to find in the authentic transcripts:
Questioner: "The more I listen to you, the more I think you're an atheist."
Krishnamurti: "I was an atheist before I realized I was God."
Does anyone know more about this alleged quote?
Posted by anon on May 9, 2013 at 11:48am — 20 Comments
To have that statement printed clearly on those blogs by the administration or the technical people is needed.
There is no objection to the option to have blogs that only your friends can comment on .
The problem is for example some one spends 10 minuets to compose a paragraph not having a clue that there is a pre-condition in this blog and no one knows it except the blogger himself( sneaky). This is a wastage of energy of the readers of the blogs that can be prevented…
ContinuePosted by Behy on May 7, 2013 at 11:00am — 37 Comments
funny how the more you Love someone the more incapable you can be of expressing it
>Therese
haha
>Dude
>kind of a bitchy thing to say
>Therese
>good point
>Dude
>so what was your goal in leaving that comment....just to say something shitty? Way to continue acting like a teenage girl. Grow up. I'ts sad i have to tell a supposedly grown woman to be respectful and not act…
Posted by Therese Okamoto on May 7, 2013 at 10:30am
Throw in the cards. JK wins! Throw his book across the room or at least put it down with no intention of picking it up again. I fold. JK has a flush.
Readers of nonfiction have an affinity with intellect because nothing sits more uneasy on the mind than unreasonableness. The heart will overlook it. You're so cute when you're mad. And yes I do mean that intellect is necessarily reasonable. This is why JK insists emphatically on sensitivity, that true intelligence…
ContinuePosted by Therese Okamoto on May 7, 2013 at 12:30am
I miss ant. Hopefully he is pounding taiMAIs on St. Barts or something equally The Caribbean. What I thought this discussion could do is enumerate precisely our point of departure from JK. My friend Jenny always says that JC could not have been God because he could not have gotten it so completely wrong. The Christians have a history of not knowing thing one about Love much less being able to Love flawlessly, if you ask any of them when is the last time you did anything for the love of…Continue
Started by Therese Okamoto. Last reply by skyblack 5 hours ago.
There is a life we face day to day, and if we keep this state of affairs in the forefront of the mind, and not look with self-examination, this will impede on further inquiry, and understanding. In the day to day world, I, you, are applying abilities and exercising qualities, and these lead to achievements, or maybe not. These give a sense of worth and direction, but it is temporary, and inconsistent. It is this temporary and inconsistent nature which we then try to fix, to make sound. We have…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 8 hours ago.
I have a friend who I have known all my life. More of a brother than my two brothers. He is married to a woman who many people including myself find almost impossible to talk to let alone like. She hasn't had any nasty experiences that can be pointed out as a reason for her being contrary, negative, ignorant, loud and so on. As such these negative characteristics are talked about in some depth behind her back. Over the years I have resisted taking part in these conversations. This has not been…Continue
Started by Lyn Mccormack. Last reply by Peter Stephens on Friday.
I Confess I am the guy that walks into the police station and says "i did it." even if I didn't. Confess up front. I like that angle. On tv it usually results in the cops having to prove not guilty. Yes confession is wonderful. We should have a confessional on every main street corner. Non denominational of course. Next to the hot dog stand. We would be the one fully loaded. I will confess to almost anything up front because I know that I am capable of almost anything. I say almost because…Continue
Started by Lyn Mccormack on Thursday.
Krishnamurti once said , " A strong wind knocks down a tree that has found deep roots whereas a blade of grass bends in the direction of the wind and when the wind is gone , stands straight " ( proxy words ) .Down decades people wanted to know the secret of Krishnamurti . And in a talk K asked the audience , " Do you want to know my secret ? " and then in a soft and gentle tone answered , " I don't mind what happens " .What are the implications ?Continue
Started by Senthil. Last reply by Therese Okamoto on Tuesday.
"Knowing that all forms pass,Abide in that which lasts."I derived this after reading Nisargadatta: "I know full well that this knowingness will not remain. I abide in that no-knowing state."Continue
Started by anon. Last reply by Therese Okamoto on Tuesday.
Apparently everyone in the United States needs a gun, like a Smart Phone, or a computer. Did K have a gun? I doubt it. What is behind this? Fear? The need for security? It's disturbing. What do you all think? Is there any place left in the world where the instruments of violence are absent? Apparently not, as long as man (including woman) is there. Where do we stand? What do we say? What do you all think?Continue
Started by Carolyn Studer. Last reply by Lyn Mccormack May 11.
Talk 4, London, 07 May 1966Questioner: You think it is important that we should be aware of our existence while getting on and off a bus and things like that, but how can we remember to be aware?Krishnamurti: How can we remember all the time to be aware? I'm afraid we can't. That's why we should not try to remember. Heavens, if I try to remember to be aware then I'm practising awareness! Then awareness is something to be attained, something that will gradually become mechanical and therefore…Continue
Started by anon. Last reply by skyblack May 11.
K has often said, " You are the world. Not just as an idea but actually .... as a fact. It is as real as you have a headache. If you change yourself the world will change. " I wonder if that is true. If I could free myself of violence, will the world be free of violence ? Imagine if one person is transformed .... the world is transformed. Actually...not just an idea. Continue
Started by shashi mehta. Last reply by charley May 6.
The overview effect is a cognitive shift in awareness reported by some astronauts and cosmonauts during spaceflight, often while viewing the Earth from orbit or from the lunar surface. It refers to the experience of seeing firsthand the reality of the Earth in space, which is immediately understood to be a tiny, fragile ball of life, hanging in the void, shielded and nourished by a paper-thin atmosphere. From space, the astronauts tell us,National boundaries vanish, the conflicts that divide…Continue
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