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July 9, 2013 at 4pm to July 14, 2013 at 2pm – France
Today I went for an eye exam.
The OD showed me this diagram (which I found online).
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All the layers between the optic nerve (bottom) and the outer layer of retina (where light hits) my doctor called "the integrated circuits" of the eye. There are 350…
ContinuePosted by anon on May 23, 2013 at 3:34pm — 5 Comments
[of course saying "good or bad" is bad...]
Is it OK to have fun?
[i guess it depends on what you are doing...]
FUN means you're playing, you're happy.
Perhaps you are expressing the human spirit - interacting with the world - living and learning - joy for its own sake...
Or is it always the "me" that is expressing itself? Is "fun" only "me" having a holiday, recess, cut loose?
They say when you are happy you don't notice it at the…
ContinuePosted by anon on May 23, 2013 at 7:38am — 18 Comments
Posted by kant on May 20, 2013 at 1:39pm — 7 Comments
We say that a mind full of thoughts comes in the way of silence. If we look carefully then we see that thoughts by themselves are powerless. What renders them power is our attachment. When there is attachment then thoughts become powerful and controlling. Attachments are like hooks in the psyche where thoughts can come and dock. Then these thoughts spawn new threads of thought and take various shapes like fear, obsession etc. Thoughts then become powerful. Without attachment thoughts…
ContinuePosted by Rachna on May 20, 2013 at 1:53am — 3 Comments
I don't know have you ever glimpsed the movement of thought in the brain? It is very bizarre. There is a mutitude of diverse images in a vast crazy activity. It is impossible to make sense of it. It is this immediate perception of all of this mixed packets of life, intensely active, out of control, in chaos, which I guess at attempting to make sense of, or to relate to in some way, and that is terrifying. While seeing the mass of moving images, it is like there is an instinct for…
ContinuePosted by Peter Stephens on May 17, 2013 at 8:00pm — 35 Comments
"As long as there is a time interval between the observer and the observed it creates friction and therefore there is a waste of energy. That energy is gathered to its highest point when the observer is the observed, in which there is no time interval at all. Then there will be energy without motive and it will find its own channel of action because then the 'I' does not exist.
Freedom from the Known,120
Posted by Behy on May 17, 2013 at 10:37am — 4 Comments
“And so long as you haven't experienced
this: to die and so to grow,
you are only a troubled guest
on the dark earth.”
Goethe
She walked around at the end of her life,…
ContinuePosted by Carolyn Studer on May 15, 2013 at 12:30pm
I got this fortune cookie the other night at a Chinese restaurant.
First I thought "fortune=future, finding is time-binding."
Then I thought "Find the truth in time!"
Not "in time" like "before it's too late" but "in time" like "actually as it happens in time."
K might say time is psychological, that's the truth of it, and thus the timeless is when thought/becoming ends.
I say also, if you move in time with time, as…
ContinuePosted by anon on May 12, 2013 at 6:00pm — 7 Comments
The “I” is the past, therefore it is the known. “Freedom from the known” is freedom from the “I”. You are the content of your consciousness, of what you can know, which implies again the “I” which is the “I” of all the different/various fragments of “you”, of “your” memories, of everything “you” like/dislike. If you cannot say “I” for all these different fragments, you will not be able to free yourself from these fragments, from the known, from the “I”. If one of the fragments dominates the…
ContinueIn the universities they expect you to be intelligent within their own frame work of what they call "ethics" and intelligence is graded as A student or B student and so on. Krishnamurti denies the academic intelligence as being limited and therefore not intelligence at all.
Posted by Behy on May 10, 2013 at 11:29am — 19 Comments
I am continuing thinking about the earlier discussion about vanity but I see a different tack. I go into this very carefully.Say I am looking for a job. I need skills to do the job, not just because of the performance, but because I am fitting in with other people who need a level of co-operation. To get the job I must present my date of birth, my qualifications, my experience, my abilities and so on. Just like someone applying for social assistance: Name, address, date of birth, telephone…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 26 minutes ago.
Hi All I'm Marcus from Perth. I have a few questions for the Forum? Was K's 'Process' Kundalini Awakening? Was one of Krishnamurti's greatest secrets that he had intimate knowledge of Kundalini Awakening? I saw a video of Krishnmurti, talking about Kundalini....he mentioned that he would steer clear of the subject....'people are too eager"... Like Gopi Krishna, Krishnamurti places the emphasis on Raja Yoga, King of the Yogas, whereby there is a revolution of the heart and the cultivation of…Continue
Started by marcus simonds. Last reply by Lyn Mccormack yesterday.
I miss ant. Hopefully he is pounding taiMAIs on St. Barts or something equally The Caribbean. What I thought this discussion could do is enumerate precisely our point of departure from JK. My friend Jenny always says that JC could not have been God because he could not have gotten it so completely wrong. The Christians have a history of not knowing thing one about Love much less being able to Love flawlessly, if you ask any of them when is the last time you did anything for the love of…Continue
Started by Therese Okamoto. Last reply by Therese Okamoto on Tuesday.
it says above: "Can I, as a human being, lead a different kind of life?"... is anyone interested in actually doing that? I wonder if people who lie would ever realise the damage they do to themselves and others ... whether they could/would ever just be honest? Is there anyone at all who has changed, who is actually leading a different kind of life? K talked about the world crisis starting in the late 1940's as one in which rationalisations are given to justify any kind of behaviour, in other…Continue
Tags: change, integrity, Behaviour
Started by charley on Monday.
K has often said, " You are the world. Not just as an idea but actually .... as a fact. It is as real as you have a headache. If you change yourself the world will change. " I wonder if that is true. If I could free myself of violence, will the world be free of violence ? Imagine if one person is transformed .... the world is transformed. Actually...not just an idea. Continue
Started by shashi mehta. Last reply by anon on Monday.
There is a life we face day to day, and if we keep this state of affairs in the forefront of the mind, and not look with self-examination, this will impede on further inquiry, and understanding. In the day to day world, I, you, are applying abilities and exercising qualities, and these lead to achievements, or maybe not. These give a sense of worth and direction, but it is temporary, and inconsistent. It is this temporary and inconsistent nature which we then try to fix, to make sound. We have…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens on Sunday.
I have a friend who I have known all my life. More of a brother than my two brothers. He is married to a woman who many people including myself find almost impossible to talk to let alone like. She hasn't had any nasty experiences that can be pointed out as a reason for her being contrary, negative, ignorant, loud and so on. As such these negative characteristics are talked about in some depth behind her back. Over the years I have resisted taking part in these conversations. This has not been…Continue
Started by Lyn Mccormack. Last reply by Peter Stephens May 17.
I Confess I am the guy that walks into the police station and says "i did it." even if I didn't. Confess up front. I like that angle. On tv it usually results in the cops having to prove not guilty. Yes confession is wonderful. We should have a confessional on every main street corner. Non denominational of course. Next to the hot dog stand. We would be the one fully loaded. I will confess to almost anything up front because I know that I am capable of almost anything. I say almost because…Continue
Started by Lyn Mccormack May 15.
Krishnamurti once said , " A strong wind knocks down a tree that has found deep roots whereas a blade of grass bends in the direction of the wind and when the wind is gone , stands straight " ( proxy words ) .Down decades people wanted to know the secret of Krishnamurti . And in a talk K asked the audience , " Do you want to know my secret ? " and then in a soft and gentle tone answered , " I don't mind what happens " .What are the implications ?Continue
Started by Senthil. Last reply by Therese Okamoto May 13.
"Knowing that all forms pass,Abide in that which lasts."I derived this after reading Nisargadatta: "I know full well that this knowingness will not remain. I abide in that no-knowing state."Continue
Started by anon. Last reply by Therese Okamoto May 13.
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