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TOPICS--module two.....Deleted Posts From Wry's Blogs ....And Also A General Discussion Of How Various Idea Content Affects Brain Function

Hi Everyone...I thought it would be interesting and helpful to look at some of the occasional messages I am deleting (and maybe even some i am not deleting) so as  to better understand what enquiry is,  at least to me, and what kind of material I am looking for on my blogs....to Ariana, this one message of yours happens to be the first I am posting here only because it is the first message that is being deleted since I just now decided to make this blog....(many…
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Posted by wry on May 24, 2015 at 10:54pm — 1 Comment

Guidance

When someone is your guide through life, you're demonstrating that you're lost and have no ability to find your own way. When someone's pronouncements about life influence your approach to problems and affect your inquiry into questions, you've got your nose stuck in a guidebook.

Now, imagine lifting your eyes from your guidebook and looking…

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Posted by Ariana EL on May 21, 2015 at 5:00pm — 53 Comments

If the observer was different from the observed...

If the observer was different from the observed, then each component of the opposite pair could exist independently from each other. But in reality, they do not exist independently from each other. Take a look at division and unity. When I am deeply seeing, feeling no division within myself, then division is gone. And the idea of unity has no use any longer. The state of non-division is something else different and not the ideal of unifying the divided fragments.

Another example: fear…

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Posted by Si on May 20, 2015 at 3:13pm — 12 Comments

Is Knowledge Destroying Man?

"K: Which means I probe into the whole nature of knowledge and place it, put it in its right place, and, therefore, it is no longer interfering with my perception. Knowledge is creating havoc in the world, destroying humanity, and without living a religious life, knowledge inevitably destroys humanity.



We are saying that the very ascent through knowledge is the destruction of man, and to prevent that destruction, knowledge must be put in its right place, and in the very placing of…

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Posted by Pilgrim on May 20, 2015 at 1:30pm

To Cultivate a Good Mind

"Mind is infinite, is the nature of the universe which has its own order, has its own immense energy. It is everlastingly free. The brain, as it is now, is the slave of knowledge and so is limited, finite, fragmentary. When the brain frees itself from its…

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Posted by Ceklata Koch on May 19, 2015 at 10:58am — 20 Comments

Fear, Aggression and Security

If one has found their security in something, a theory, a belief, a faith, a relationship, a savior, a guru, material possessions, hard assets or financial assets, memories, experiences, knowledge, fame, a lofty self image or any self image, position, power, authority, work and the product of work, then naturally there will be a fear of loss, there will be self protectiveness and a defensive aggressiveness out of that.  And the institutions of society are based on this defensive/offensive…

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Posted by Pilgrim on May 19, 2015 at 8:09am — 8 Comments

'Psychological' Pain'--Fear and Lying--A Radical Communication, So Put On Your Crash Helmut. Just In Case..... (and also some side comments on K's famous statement "the observer is the observed")

What does it mean to be human? It is only human to be afraid at times, to maybe tell certain lies to others and ourselves,  such as even kind lies so as not to hurt other people's feelings. It is even said in some Buddhist teachings that sometimes the Buddha has to lie.There are all kinds and various gradations of lying. A person can lie to dupe people for personal gain and/or because unless he lies to others and himself he cannot go on living. A person can lie consciously, meaning that he…

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Posted by wry on May 18, 2015 at 11:30am — 43 Comments

the observer is the observed

For me, the meaning is obvious, in that the structure of the sentence tells me what it means (this is how language is supposed to work)...K is saying that the observer and the observed are made of the same thing; it is the same event. We see evidence of this in physics, where the observer is always a crucial part of what is observed, even effecting the outcome. K seemed to be speaking of this on a psychological level and it seems to hold true there as well, in that the observer, the…

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Posted by sandhiji on May 18, 2015 at 11:20am — 43 Comments

Limitation

Krishnamurti talked about thought discovering its limits, but we can see in our dealings with others how most people have illusions about their ability because few really want to find out. It's humbling to realize what you can't do and what can't be done, and it can be discouraging to realize how hard you'll have to work to achieve a degree of competence. This is why most people overestimate their ability and capacity rather…

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Posted by Ariana EL on May 17, 2015 at 3:30pm — 24 Comments

A Special Anniversary Day

Thirty years ago this Tuesday, May 19, 1985, Krishnamurti delivered the last talk he would ever give in Ojai. I was present on that day, and I still recall his final words...

"So there is a meditation which is not conscious, deliberate. In that meditation there is utter stillness. It is not the stillness of thought. That stillness is not the product of thought. That's why it is very important to understand thought, thinking and all that. And when the brain is utterly quiet then that…

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Posted by Ken on May 17, 2015 at 8:08am — 8 Comments

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    To become ... or not to become ? 47 Replies

    Doing something to change "for the better" -- being more aware, meditating, nurturing intelligence, etc. -- pretty much always ends up backfiring. Rather than freeing you from your self-made prison, it just makes the prison bars a bit subtler, sneakier. Doing nothing to change -- not making any effort to grow, evolve, understand, awaken -- often ends up leaving you back in your rut of conditioned habits, reflexes, ignorance.  It's a conundrum, right? Is there a way out of the maze, a solution? Continue

    Started by rachMiel. Last reply by rachMiel 3 hours ago.

    Thought vs Observation 695 Replies

    All these years of participating in dialogues pertaining to K seem to have accomplished absolutely nothing.  Nothing has changed in my life.   Thought still rules, and where thought rules, there is no observation.  Broadly speaking, of course.  In the margins one might argue otherwise, but that would merely be a waste of time.Is there something I'm doing wrong.  Or is there something I'm failing to do?  But when I look around, much the same picture appears everywhere.  And of course K did…Continue

    Started by Hermann Janzen. Last reply by Si 4 hours ago.

    Learning 1 Reply

    Few of us learn from experience; most of us must be taughtEverything I know about life I'm learning right nowEverything I know is threatened by what I'm finding outContinue

    Started by Ariana EL. Last reply by tree 5 hours ago.

    I am to die. 2 Replies

    It seems people think there is a message in communication. So at first, unthinkingly, communication is treated with communication as messages. Someone says don't come with problems, the answer is to come with solutions. For every bad idea, we adopt a better idea. It sounds all very well and people live this way with juxtaposing messages. It all seems a problem looking for solutions, and by being caught in this, it is depressing. Some people report they consider ending their lives, and a lot of…Continue

    Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 20 hours ago.

    Introducing me 4 Replies

    Hai friends                     I am a new member .I am searching for truth in life from my childhood.I myself found me in krishanamurti"s philosophy from 15 years back around year 2000.From that year i am reading JK and try to understand him.Hope all of you receive me one of your friend.Thanking youOddula RavisekharContinue

    Started by Oddula Ravisekhar. Last reply by Eric Elejalde on Friday.

    Kooky K-Cult Conundrum 101 Replies

    So, if you all found out tomorrow that K was a total fraud (yeah, I just opened up a proverbial can of worms with that phrase), would you still consider the teaching as valid? I'm talking about something blatant, like an unreleased video of him saying something to the effect of, "I'm really duping these people with all these talks and abstractions about thought, the mind, consciousness, etc. I dissolved the Order of the Star because I knew that by feigning humility and claiming no desire for…Continue

    Started by Craig. Last reply by Craig on Thursday.

    The First and Last Freedom 6 Replies

     I would like to start a discussion on K's book The First and Last Freedom. I propose we pick a chapter to read and discuss it in the chat room. If you are interested, add your name here.Continue

    Started by Bob Hearns. Last reply by Bob Hearns on Wednesday.

    Just talk 67 Replies

    I mean this is my life and this is life and it is an extremely exciting life to discover. It is my great passion going into it every day. It can be called the "unknown" because there is no way to predict the future. The future here is not the old perception as we know it, but since it is a movement, an unfolding refrsehment without carrying the past along, the future is timeless in that sense. How can I tell what comes in such a movement because it has that sense of the infinite. The infinite…Continue

    Started by Si. Last reply by Si on Wednesday.

    Depleted Resources 104 Replies

    When we see so many homeless, a tremendous prison population, failed schools, high unemployment, depletion of our resources isn't it time to begin a conversation about mandatory sterilization?Continue

    Started by Ceklata Koch. Last reply by Ceklata Koch on Tuesday.

    Still Waiting 191 Replies

    Can anyone provide an explanation of what "the observer is the observed" actually means...an explanation that all K-enthusiasts agree with, or is the meaning of this portentous phrase a matter of personal interpretation?Continue

    Started by Ariana EL. Last reply by bruce May 18.

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