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Is Freedom from Conditioning Really Possible?
Talk 39 min.
2 minute K anecdote: conditioning and time
Prof. Krishna: Are K's Teachings Practical?
May 2, 2010 - 52 min.
Certainty, Mind, and the Brain
Dr. Robert Burton & Prof. Frode Steen - November 14, 2009
Part 1, Dr. Burton - 55 min.
Part 2, Prof. Steen - 63 min.
New Videos from Oak Grove School
For the most part we think of our place in life as passive. TV, movies, adverts, products, are seen as entertainment, consummables. We don't see the potency of images. Someone has created an image, and when I see it, i think it is there for me to enjoy, or to dislike, to accept as external, or to internalise it. We don't see that the image has been created by someone and it is what it is, by someone making it. The image is influential, causing me to think in the way the image has been…Continue
Hyde park has this strange dissonant to make one feel 'all alone yet accepted',on quite weekdays.Its unlike D.C. where one feel like a visitor from the moment 'go'.Having listened to Sheldrake an astute ,no nonsense ,matter of fact ,erudite ,'suffer fools badly', scientist one could wonder how American thinkers want to ban him at all.Maybe 'exceptionalism' knows no boundry?
To well versed k students the name might ring a bell?.The young enquirer held his own while in dialogue with k…Continue
We can indulge in thought any time and there is often a payoff. On this forum we spend many hours engaged in thought which creates negligible to intense reactions in our bodies. When we think of a person who irritates us, our bodies constrict and tense up. We are ready to spar, and those sensations can become addictive, especially with the release of adrenaline.
Every memory elicits an internal physical response. Remembering positive experiences can trigger dopamine release as…Continue
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Krishnamurti left a packet of thorns with which to remove thorns in the mind. These thorns were not meant to take the place of conditioning and Krishnamurti spelled this out in a number of ways. If one makes a golden calf of Krishnamurti’s words, or denigrates them, either way one has missed the point of what they offer. The thorns he left us are to be used only to pry out thorns in the mind, then all the thorns are to…Continue
Do you believe you know what's good for you and humanity? Do you believe having no sense of self makes us more sensitive to everything else? What would it actually mean to be without "me", without any sense of "I"? How could you possibly know?
If it can be known that "you" no longer exist, only you can know it. That is, there's no…
Let me work my way to the punchline here in order to stretch this thing out a bit. I'll begin with the notion of a between that puts continuity into doubt, such as something happening to the me to whom things happen, but for that beginning to be, I need to begin with the continuity itself and work from there, which means that we shall start here with a certain continuity.
We take that continuity apart, and in doing so, come to understand how it was put together. When we reach the…Continue
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All these years of participating in dialogues pertaining to K seem to have accomplished absolutely nothing. Nothing has changed in my life. Thought still rules, and where thought rules, there is no observation. Broadly speaking, of course. In the margins one might argue otherwise, but that would merely be a waste of time.Is there something I'm doing wrong. Or is there something I'm failing to do? But when I look around, much the same picture appears everywhere. And of course K did…Continue
Started by Hermann Janzen. Last reply by Chris Dent 50 minutes ago.
So, if you all found out tomorrow that K was a total fraud (yeah, I just opened up a proverbial can of worms with that phrase), would you still consider the teaching as valid? I'm talking about something blatant, like an unreleased video of him saying something to the effect of, "I'm really duping these people with all these talks and abstractions about thought, the mind, consciousness, etc. I dissolved the Order of the Star because I knew that by feigning humility and claiming no desire for…Continue
Started by Craig. Last reply by Chris Dent 59 minutes ago.
Joey Lott probably expresses this more clearly than I could........http://joeylott.com/do-you-want-to-get-rid-of-the-false-self/I think this is very worthwhile for discussion......Continue
Started by Chris Dent 1 hour ago.
I mean this is my life and this is life and it is an extremely exciting life to discover. It is my great passion going into it every day. It can be called the "unknown" because there is no way to predict the future. The future here is not the old perception as we know it, but since it is a movement, an unfolding refrsehment without carrying the past along, the future is timeless in that sense. How can I tell what comes in such a movement because it has that sense of the infinite. The infinite…Continue
Started by Si. Last reply by Si yesterday.
You love Krishnamurti because he gave you permission to believe that your consciousness is not yours but OURS, that what you don't like about yourself doesn't really exist, and that what you do like (consciousness) is eternal and immortal, immeasurable and ecstatic.Continue
Started by Ariana EL. Last reply by kant yesterday.
I think many people, from what they say, haven't had the experience of attention. I am talking about this because people so quickly think about attention as an abstract, theoretical notion. They may have a concept of attention, but not understand it. Let's call it attention, but maybe it is not different to meditation. I say experience because I am talking about the actual sensitivity and the sensations, not the activity of a formal practice or exercise. Of course even the word experience is…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens yesterday.
Without love one cant live.yes if self sprouts up one is in darkness and one forgets his or mission of life. Actions out of love only can be called the real action or right action.
Started by kant. Last reply by kant on Sunday.
Brain is an internal organ like any other internal organs, which we believe to exists according to our scientific knowledge. We cannot detect by our five senses or from the mind, any of these internal organs. On the other hand we detect the Mind from the Mind as the sixth scene organ, which is not a physical entity. This simple fact Krishnamurti could not realize, and fooled by Bohm's questioning Krishnamurti says that Brain is Mind, What a delusion!Did Bohm intentionally fooled Krishnamurti to…Continue
Started by Yogi Irushad. Last reply by Peter Stephens on Saturday.