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“Truth must be discovered, but there is no formula for its discovery. You must set out on the uncharted sea, and the uncharted sea is yourself. You must set out to discover yourself…”
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Working within the system

When I was younger, I was drawn to working outside of (what I interpreted to be) "the system" of conventional human reality. Radicals like Krishnamurti appealed to me, those who advocated for a revolutionarily new approach to life. The more extreme and absolute their assertions, the better! After all, the world in general and my life in particular were a mess. What better solution than to tear it all down and start anew? 

Nowadays I see things differently, more in shades of gray than…


Posted by rachMiel on February 12, 2016 at 8:21am — 4 Comments

Causes of human ego to be understood first and foremost to bring about peace in the world

Unity in Diversity, what does it signify.?it says that we must know the truth of all diversities in behavioral patterns etc.Egos are there , different egos clash, and these egos are far away from understanding themselves, once they can fully understand themselves, then all problems will cease in this world.hence the necessity arises to understand what are the causes of Ego.once the cause is understood, then only one can try to be free of egos, then only peace can prevail in the world.

Posted by kant on February 12, 2016 at 7:33am

Desire, Division, Thought and Security

I believe that K was a man generations ahead of his time and a genius really.

I have 4 questions which I wish someone had asked K. If anybody knows of any video or audio of him addressing them please share. Any thoughts are also welcome. Thanks in advance!

ON DESIRE: K used to say something along the lines that desire is created by thought, and is destructive, brings insecurity, which brings division, which…


Posted by Jonas Oak on February 11, 2016 at 9:53pm — 4 Comments


"we sacrifice the present for the future, and it does not matter what means we employ as long as our declared purpose is to produce a result that we say will be beneficial to man. Therefore, the implication is that a wrong means will produce a right end and you justify the wrong means through ideation." Krishnamurti

There was no doubt in Krishnamurti's mind that killing is always evil, and that one should never kill another. But is it possible to know what is always…


Posted by Ariana EL on February 8, 2016 at 4:17pm — 22 Comments

and i quoth and i unquoth

"I hardly know an intellectual man, even, who is so broad and truly liberal that you can think aloud in his society. Most with whom you endeavor to talk soon come to a stand against some institution in which they appear to hold stock, — that is, some particular, not universal, way of viewing things. They will continually thrust their own low roof, with its narrow skylight, between you and the sky,"

Henry David Thoreau

Posted by Jane on February 8, 2016 at 4:00am

The story of no-story

It's one of the most seductive of all the many tales of the non-duality crowd, right up there with pure awareness: the story of no-story ... i.e. the notion that one can live without stories, bathed in "truth" and "actuality." 

But *is* it a story? Can one, in fact, live without images of any kind (because images *are* stories): verbal, visual, imagined, triggered by sensory perception? 

In moments, perhaps. When one feels deep wonder, or love, or connectedness ... is the story…


Posted by rachMiel on February 7, 2016 at 5:42am — 63 Comments

Reality Actuality and thought as a system and the forth wall.

Fair observation has shown that the new born identifies itelf with the mother or whoever it find itself with at birth.Without getting into too much depth into why and wherefore for this observable fact ,here the accentuation will be on how it affects ordinary psychological growth into separation when the child identifies himself or herself of not being 'one with the mother'.Any negative correlation for this can be found in studies specific to Feral childrens.

There are many who dont…


Posted by mohd ali on February 6, 2016 at 2:46pm — 2 Comments

Just Desire to be in THAT state

Dear friends I feel it is the will of 'God' that determines whether any one of us can be in THAT State or not.I know most of us don't like the word 'God' hence I substitute it with 'Desire'.'Desire?' Is not 'Desire' is a prohibitory word in spiritual field?

Just 'Desire 'to be in that state.Don`t make any effort as there is no use in making any effort as all efforts are linked to 'Thought'.Just check yourself whether THAT thought(!?) is alive OR not,burning OR NOT.There is a chance,I…


Posted by s s v ramana rao on February 6, 2016 at 9:33am — 3 Comments

A great sermon

Posted by Jahan on February 3, 2016 at 4:26pm — 3 Comments

Sharing stories around the campfire :-)

That's what we're doing here, isn't it: sharing stories with each other.

We find certain stories more compelling, others less. Some seem closer to the "truth" (a very juicy story for seekers), some far far away. We might feel driven to defend a story, or attack it.

The storyteller is also a story.

Stories living in and with and through stories. To paraphrase my Aunt Jeanne: We're not very good at reality.

Posted by rachMiel on January 28, 2016 at 10:33am — 6 Comments


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    Are Mind and Brain One and The Same? 90 Replies

    From my point of view the brain is nothing more than a hunk of meat.  Operating from conditioning the brain is the divider.  Through meditation this can be seen, not conceptualized, but seen.  Total, or direct perception is of the mind, not the brain.In another discussion, someone has been insisting the brain is all there is, what do you think?   Continue

    Started by n{}. Last reply by bruce 25 minutes ago.

    Intelligence 158 Replies

    Intelligence arises from the interaction of awareness and *right* thought.Awareness detects. Thought processes.When awareness detects something and right thought interprets it "accurately," intelligence manifests. Discernment, insight, wisdom, peacefulness ... these are all forms of intelligence. Awareness, thought, intelligence: the triad of a healthy awake mind. That's how I see it, anyway, in late January of 2016. You? Continue

    Started by rachMiel. Last reply by bruce 28 minutes ago.

    Is there only the fact? 39 Replies

    > That is where K comes in and says, there is only violence as a fact, and non violence is a non fact. I understand that violence is a fact of the human mind. But why is non-violence not also a fact? The human mind is capable of compassion, kindness, and love just as much as violence, ugliness, and hate. Continue

    Started by Si. Last reply by Si 1 hour ago.

    Memory 142 Replies

    What is memory?The word is from Latin, memor, meaning mindful, to bring to mind. I can know about myself, where I am, what I am doing. I can know people, places, the city, do a job, and have a general knowledge about the world, society, science, sport, business, and so on. I can carry a conversation, and discuss topics. Yet ask me any easy quiz question and I have no answers. I can read about a topic, study a language, and within a few minutes I struggle to recall the words. I watch TV and…Continue

    Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by bruce 2 hours ago.

    Thought vs Observation 1327 Replies

    All these years of participating in dialogues pertaining to K seem to have accomplished absolutely nothing.  Nothing has changed in my life.   Thought still rules, and where thought rules, there is no observation.  Broadly speaking, of course.  In the margins one might argue otherwise, but that would merely be a waste of time.Is there something I'm doing wrong.  Or is there something I'm failing to do?  But when I look around, much the same picture appears everywhere.  And of course K did…Continue

    Started by Hermann Janzen. Last reply by Si 5 hours ago.

    Meditation. 7 Replies

    Say you are interested in meditation. You want to find the quiet space in the mind. Unavoidably you will be thinking of an activity. You may not realise this very exercise is setting up the mind to be just as occupied as it was before, and any sense of quietness is contrived. You may find the various methods of meditation interesting, even providing some ease, but basically you have adopted a technique for producing a result, and any result is  activity, not quietness.The mind occupied in…Continue

    Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 13 hours ago.

    Geisteshaltung = die zugrunde liegenden Eigenschaften 6 Replies

    Du beginnst alles mit Dir, aber niemals bei Dir || Das heißt|bedeutet:Was beginnt|begann, das ist bedeutungslos - das, was endet, nichtContinue

    Started by Michael Jordan. Last reply by Michael Jordan on Wednesday.

    Perception - pure, direct and total. Is there such a thing? 139 Replies

     K talked of a pure, direct or total perception. What precisely did he mean by his use of these terms in relation to perception, because as many visual illusions seem to demonstrate, what we ordinarily see or perceive is continually being put together and modified by mental processes that in themselves limit and condition what is seen. Unless there can be a perception entirely free from conditioning, entirely free from interpretation and interference, or in other words, a perception not touched…Continue

    Started by Paul Sylvan. Last reply by charley on Monday.

    Helping the world.

    Do thoughts and discussions here help the world?If it helps, how?And in what directions?It is not intended to discourage, critisize anybody at all.Only i want to discuss in a new direction, thanks and wish best to all.Continue

    Tags: wish, best, all, direction, new

    Started by kant on Monday.

    Who is seeking? 8 Replies

    When we are in conflict, we seek a remedy, which is surely one of our biggest deceptions.  That is, we are seeking an answer, not an understanding involving mind and heart.  We want to skip over the details, the feelings, the obsessions, the fears; and get right to the answer. It is for this reason that so many people turn to religion, meditation, drink, drugs, or whatever; because our most pressing wish is to arrive, to be rid of conflict rather than give ourselves to understand it with full…Continue

    Started by Charles Robichaud. Last reply by bruce Feb 6.



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