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“Truth must be discovered, but there is no formula for its discovery. You must set out on the uncharted sea, and the uncharted sea is yourself. You must set out to discover yourself…”
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Is Freedom from Conditioning Really Possible?
Talk 39 min.
2 minute K anecdote: conditioning and time
Prof. Krishna: Are K's Teachings Practical?
May 2, 2010 - 52 min.
Certainty, Mind, and the Brain
Dr. Robert Burton & Prof. Frode Steen - November 14, 2009
Part 1, Dr. Burton - 55 min.
Part 2, Prof. Steen - 63 min.
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Goodness shows itself in behaviour and action and in relationship. Generally our daily behaviour is based on either the following of certain patterns – mechanical and therefore superficial – or according to very carefully thought-out motive, based on reward or punishment. So our behaviour, consciously or unconsciously, is calculated. This is not good behaviour. When one realizes this, not merely intellectually or by putting words together, then good behaviour comes out of negating what it is not.
The Whole Movement of Life is Learning, chapter 2: Freedom is essential for the beauty of goodness
Nobody really pay attention to that quality of mind of intelligence because we do not know it. But to follow the learning and understanding of the self in its relationship to the world about it some day you will discover the strike of intelligence. Life really needs intelligence and intelligence is the light that shines through all times , actions, being, and the sense of wholeness of life.
Like the energy paradox, the mind paradox appears to the conditioned mind as a paradox. A paradox is: "a seemingly absurd or self-contradictory statement or proposition that when investigated or explained may prove to be well founded or true." " The observer is the observed," is such a statement. What I mean by " Mind Paradox" is that: only a sensitive, quite, pliable mind without borders can see without division, but it is only a mind that sees without division that has…Continue
It is surely an arduous journey, can take decades or a lifelong trip or one may never make it, but the fact is thought can be quiet and the mind can be unconditioned from the field of thought. The whole of life as known is built and conditioned in thought so it is not a simple matter to see through it all.
There are so many ways, views and often tricks or techniques and logics people employ to play along in dealing with thought, endless debate and argument but they all are thought.…Continue
You can see or touch the fact only when thought as time is not. Otherwise thought will go round and round and what you touch is thought and never the fact. The fact of loneliness can be a physical pain, the feeling of pain for a while but because the brain cannot find any escape through thought it is faced with the fact without a possible way out and soon the fact ends or the pain ends. Then to live with the fact where thought cannot opperate is freedom from conformity, imitation, comfort…Continue
What does K mean by "to turn all the days of our life into something which you have never seen before"?
First Q&A, Madras, 1985, 1st January.
Krishnamurti: "I wonder what we mean by a new year. Is it a fresh year, a year that is totally afresh, something that has never happened before? When we say something new, though we know that there is nothing new under the sun, when we talk about a happy new year, is it really a new year for us? Or is it the same old pattern…Continue
After tonight's Dialogue, I was talking to a person in the dining room of the KFA, and I was trying to describe how I felt or how I feel usually when I attend a Dialogue.
The way I've been describing it has been as a "defragmentation" of some kind or another, but what I really wanted to say and how I was really feeling during my whole conversation with him was "bright."
As if light had dispelled darkness and now the real light that I am was burning bright.
Humans managing their centre by enhancing it or trying to minimise it. As civilisation goes up, It is increasingly becoming difficult for humans to aware about their self.
The self is getting boosted by ' Self confidence ' Self respect' To become' To achieve'. This is working on them and compounded by different divisions formed naturally with the tags of religion, caste, education, economy, nation and so called ethics advocated by different groups. As well as by spirituality seeking…Continue
A religious holiday reminds people of the wider community, across countries, and this brings to mind there are many people together, and we are not alone. Yet if we were at another time, to say to someone, psychologically our lives are lived alone, and we constantly add belief and things to fill aloneness, they would not agree. The fickleness of the mind is astonishingly a matter of convenience.
People may participate in the religious activities, festive customs, but the holiday is…Continue
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“God cannot be known. It is totally unknown. It cannot be experienced. If you experience it, it is no longer God, truth. It is only when there is no experiencer, no experience, that reality can come into being. Only when the mind is in the state of the unknown, does the unknown come into being. Only when there is the wiping away of all experience, of all knowledge, is the mind truly still, and in that stillness which is immeasurable, that which has no name comes into being.”Jiddu Krishnamurti…Continue
Started by Thalia. Last reply by Rick 30 minutes ago.
A friend has been asking me to make some art works because I am equipped to do this. First he mentions the topic and shows examples. Later he explains these are just ideas, and suggests I be creative. Then later again, he asks to have a say in the forms, the colors, the size, etc. I think this is a very strange way to go about making things. It shows very little understanding about creativity.This is what a lot of people are doing. They see things in the world, and want them, and want them in…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 14 hours ago.
The answer to the question, "Can The Mind bring itself to an end?" is no, absolutely not, and any endeavour to induce such a phenomenon is as informed a project as attempting to get a cabbage to whistle. You have to be born - wholly or partially - outside of The Mind K was pointing to as the great confounding factor for humans. Neither "Awareness" nor "Attention" nor discourses (on pathways, 'the past', time, memory), or any other widget, can free the human wholly resident - at birth - in The…Continue
Started by Bezon Shroff. Last reply by Peter Stephens yesterday.
Is it dreaming when you are seemingly asleep, listening to a story in the head? Then aware and looking closely, like with a skill from meditation, the observer realises he is looking at the brain at work, and the story ends, and there is an awakening from dreaming, and momentarily in this unknown darkness, fear.The dream was an unfamiliar story, not a recollection, and the details have no significance to recall, and the awareness does not arise from any matters of the story. The awareness was…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens on Friday.
K lays great stress on 'right action'.This is a result of right thinking in the right time.Or timing is not important, only right thinking presently is important?In such action where is ' me' or 'me' is totally absent?May we discuss?Continue
Started by kant. Last reply by X on Tuesday.
Once again, another dangerous delusion.Continue
Started by bruce. Last reply by bruce sean Jan 10.
Is there a self? Is there a false self and a true self? Is there neither a true or false self, are these just different ways of looking at the same thing? ----------------- This is an ecumenical thread: All views and approaches are welcome.Continue
Started by Rick. Last reply by Shiva Kebeka Jan 6.
When we talk about freedom usually it is meant, working from a self center and free to do what I want. This is always bumping into the other self centers and being in conflict with them. It may be sociable and polite, civilised, but nevertheless, in conflict. This conflict is then what we spend most of the time managing and organising.Then freedom becomes working within certain parameters, cooperatively, and depends on observance to rules, guidelines, and this is the function of belief. I…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens Jan 5.