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The root of disorder.

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What is the cause of disorder?

 “One can find many causes, the pursuit of causes is endless. Whereas one could ask oneself and find out if there is one root cause. Obviously there must be. The root cause is the-'self' the `me', the `ego', the  personality put together by thought, by memory, by various experiences, by certain words, certain…

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Posted by Patricia on July 7, 2015 at 10:57am

The Individual Consciousness or Ignorance

"Now, all life is energy; it is conditioning and conditioned, and this energy in its self-acting development creates its own material - the body with its cells and sensations, perception, discrimination, and consciousness. Both energy and forms of energy are ever intermingling, and this makes consciousness appear conceptual as well as actual. Individual consciousness is the result of ignorance, tendency, want, craving. This ignorance is without a beginning and is compounded with energy,…

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Posted by Pilgrim on July 7, 2015 at 5:30am — 5 Comments

Thought is a useful friend

Thought is a very useful friend in man's life. Thus knowing one can live happily.

Posted by kant on July 2, 2015 at 8:54pm — 2 Comments

The Impossible Is Possible

I always start with, "my existence is in thought"; this is my north star, so to speak. Thought is in fragments, always in fragmentation, there is no wholistic thought or group of thoughts like a theory, an ideology etc. Next, as thought is limited, fragmentary, it is futile to try to become non fragmentary, complete, whole etc. Next, no illusion. Illusion is to think and assert that I am not thought, not the result of thought, the environment, but to say I am something other is an illusion, so… Continue

Posted by Pilgrim on July 2, 2015 at 12:10pm — 9 Comments

A Mirror of Sorts:

What does it mean, to complicate? It means that a factor has been added which introduces a new relation. If that factor is added to the lexicon comprising self-reflexive terms, and all of those terms have a meaning in tow, then what is one to do, if anything?

If we want to incorporate that new relation, it seems to me that we have two ways of so doing; creating a new language as transcendental of the old language, or creating a form that describes that new relation with respect to the…

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Posted by william boojum brown on June 29, 2015 at 10:28am — 22 Comments

Another day in paradise ,die without hope.

Death is something in general postponed,it is there waiting for certain the curtains will close but unconsciously the manmade mind has found a way to mask this with escapes it has conjured up.The erudite controllers aware of this fact have cultured the mind seeding it with organised religions .They sit on the top of the pyramid admiring their handy works and the ,'the fall of man'.

Unfortunately for them the cosmos has a certain order and all things must revert to their…

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Posted by mohd ali on June 28, 2015 at 8:42am

Order Is Virtue

There is more or less order in ones life according to circumstances and we may feel there is more or less order in our affairs, relationships, our house, our body with regard to ones health and well-being, the country , society etc.  But there is always a disorder against which any particular order is being measured, so its a relative order under all circumstances and according to each circumstance.  And, while there can be a measurement of that order, it is relative to disorder and it is…

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Posted by Pilgrim on June 24, 2015 at 3:30am — 3 Comments

The Value of Nothing

The Value of Nothing is a book written by Raj Patel http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/raj-patel who is clearly a signpost of our times. Raj Patel is a revolutionary who has been tear-gassed on four continents for his protests.  He writes about the global food crisis and offers solutions.  Unfortunately, someone has called him the Maitreya. K states in The Ending of Time "There is a tradition in India that one who is called…

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Posted by Ceklata Koch on June 23, 2015 at 11:54am — 12 Comments

Consciousness

It is far from clear what the word consciousness means ( see an article Consciousness | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, http://www.iep.utm.edu/consciou/)

But I think it is not an issue about what it means, and for that matter, what I know about it. What is really in question is what is the speaker, you or me, saying. Is anything anyone says to be viewed through a prism of  philosophic truth; I am certain of my own point of view, my…

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Posted by Peter Stephens on June 23, 2015 at 1:45am — 16 Comments

That belief is fine which is productive of eternal peace, otherwise it need s to be dealt with and if required forshaken then and there immediately forthwith.

All beliefs are psychological only.Due to many conditionings in life belief isformed and is apt to change.Thus belief is changeable also.A changeable thing does not bring about truth, which is unchangeable with regard to time and space.
Truth is peace always and at each and every circumstance of of life, if i get the same in my life due to adhering to any belief then such a belief is fine.

Posted by kant on June 22, 2015 at 9:45pm — 1 Comment

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    The Art of staying with what is...... 37 Replies

    In a different thread Pilgrim introduced the concept of 'staying with what is' as being an 'Art'. This seems to me to be worthy of exploring as a topic on its own.It appears to me that 'staying with the what is of thought' (for example) is an attentiveness to the thought process without becoming lost in, or identifying with, the ideas that are occurring within the thought process. 'Staying with the what is' seems to be a stepping back into the attentiveness itself.Appreciating that this is an…Continue

    Started by Chris Dent. Last reply by Peter Stephens 12 minutes ago.

    Thought vs Observation 810 Replies

    All these years of participating in dialogues pertaining to K seem to have accomplished absolutely nothing.  Nothing has changed in my life.   Thought still rules, and where thought rules, there is no observation.  Broadly speaking, of course.  In the margins one might argue otherwise, but that would merely be a waste of time.Is there something I'm doing wrong.  Or is there something I'm failing to do?  But when I look around, much the same picture appears everywhere.  And of course K did…Continue

    Started by Hermann Janzen. Last reply by Peter Stephens 27 minutes ago.

    LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF 28 Replies

    A scribe of the Pharasees tested Jesus' knowledge of the Law (i.e., the Torah or Pentateuch), asking "Which is the first [or greatest] commandment of all?"[Mark 12:29-30:]"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.[which paraphrases Deuteronomy 6:4–9, Deuteronomy 11:13-21,…Continue

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    Just talk 121 Replies

    I mean this is my life and this is life and it is an extremely exciting life to discover. It is my great passion going into it every day. It can be called the "unknown" because there is no way to predict the future. The future here is not the old perception as we know it, but since it is a movement, an unfolding refrsehment without carrying the past along, the future is timeless in that sense. How can I tell what comes in such a movement because it has that sense of the infinite. The infinite…Continue

    Started by Si. Last reply by Si 10 hours ago.

    Not a Lost Soul. 12 Replies

    Not a Lost Soul.Growing up in a family, a society, a culture, a nation, there are very many ideas and beliefs and ways of thinking I accumulate. I may not recognise I have these, and see myself as becoming a student, an adult, an employee, a professional, a business person, solely through my own effort. At some point I begin to see life as an adversity, a compromise and a failure. There is an apparent conflict in the ideas and beliefs and the realities of life. I resolve this with theoretical…Continue

    Tags: fear, soul, lost

    Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens 20 hours ago.

    FREE 17 Replies

    Free:Without expectation, undaunted, energized, formlessI am never free as long as I am "me"As long as I'm obsessed with 'what should be'Only as an observer of the lucid world dream,Without judgement, nor motivation can one be freeCall it emptiness or void, a breath of fresh airClarity, beauty or that vacant stareAbsence of thought: peace of mindIn that space, Love divineContinue

    Started by Ceklata Koch. Last reply by Ceklata Koch yesterday.

    Mentation 76 Replies

    Lots of stuff goes on in our big old homo sapiens sapiens brains/minds, stuff we name:    Thoughts    Sensations    Images    Memories    Insights    Feelings    Perceptions    Interpretations    And the list goes onNaming types of mentation (mental activity) is an analytical method that divides the whole (mentation) into parts (types of mentation) and investigates them individually.This approach is useful in some ways, but there's a big problem with it imo:As with any analytical approach, one…Continue

    Started by rachMiel. Last reply by rachMiel yesterday.

    Life is Bliss

    In Bliss (Ananda) we are born.In bliss we grow up.In bliss also we die.Thus Bliss is the substratum of our earthly existence.Life is Bliss only.

    Tags: life, Bliss

    Started by kant on Sunday.

    This is bliss..And this is Existence 2 Replies

    Knowing (realising) that I am, Iwas, and I shall be , that is, I exist always, there is Bliss!Until this realisation there is only sorrow.Continue

    Tags: sorrow, realisation, bliss, Existence

    Started by kant. Last reply by kant on Sunday.

    We can leave the body with great satisfaction 9 Replies

    Existence is always there.Only we have to examine how we are utilising this great boon granted us.If it is utilised in such a way that it gives great hope ,aspiration and happiness to a large number of species including humans then we can be satisfied and leave our particular bodies with great happiness and satisfaction!

    Tags: species, human, utilisation, body, satisfaction

    Started by kant. Last reply by kant on Sunday.

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