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Is Freedom from Conditioning Really Possible?
Talk 39 min.
2 minute K anecdote: conditioning and time
Prof. Krishna: Are K's Teachings Practical?
May 2, 2010 - 52 min.
Certainty, Mind, and the Brain
Dr. Robert Burton & Prof. Frode Steen - November 14, 2009
Part 1, Dr. Burton - 55 min.
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Goodness shows itself in behaviour and action and in relationship. Generally our daily behaviour is based on either the following of certain patterns – mechanical and therefore superficial – or according to very carefully thought-out motive, based on reward or punishment. So our behaviour, consciously or unconsciously, is calculated. This is not good behaviour. When one realizes this, not merely intellectually or by putting words together, then good behaviour comes out of negating what it is not.
The Whole Movement of Life is Learning, chapter 2: Freedom is essential for the beauty of goodness
Blind Men and the Elephant – A Poem by John Godfrey Saxe
Here is John Godfrey Saxe’s (1816-1887) version of Blind Men and the Elephant (an old Indian story):
It was six men of Indostan,
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.…
A very serious question raised by a contributor to the blog post, "One can not see the fact. The fact is the seeing," started by Peter Stephens.
And so I put the question to you all. What is it that is not expanding in Chris's brain? Can we go into this sirs? Are you at all interested?
"If America is not for freedom I do not see what it is for. We ought to invite the world through an open door—all men—yes, even the criminals—giving to everyone a chance—a new outlook. My God! are men always to go on clawing each other—always to go on taxing, stealing, warring, having a class to exclude and a class excluded—always to go on having favorite races, favorite castes—a few people with money here and there—all the rest without…Continue
Maybe this could be better put, invoking some wisdom, like "carefully attentive, there is no past". The way I have put it, in the vernacular, is going to suffer from examination of "know" and "to be", but either way there is the habit of pedantic examination. Do you see, it is the beginning and the end? For me and you. For the author and the reader.…Continue
"One can not see the fact. The fact is what is the seeing."
Thinking begets effort: "How can I remain free from evil thoughts, evil and wayward thoughts?" ...Is there the thinker, the one apart from thought, apart from the evil, wayward thoughts? Please watch your own mind. We say, "There is the I, the me that says, "This is a wayward thought,"…Continue
See/act is not division. I hope you understand that without seeing poison as poison no one will act to eliminate poison or not take it from anyone as if it was a health giving product. If none of us are questioning the freedom to see but do not act than we have accepted only half of our responsibility as seeing or awakening evolving human beings which has to also be based on a belief of see and do nothing but only observe. This concept is as terribly flawed as those who tell us to obey them…Continue
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Conflicts can end thru self knowing only and it is from moment to moment .thus it depends on total attention only at the particular problem at the moment.Time and analysis are totally irrelevant here.one must find out then and there thesolution and conflict ends.Also there is no need of of any kind of analysis now because that involves time .one depending on time can not be free for self-knowing and comparison etc. are not at all needed now.Continue
Started by kant yesterday.
"When the mind is utterly still, only then is there freedom for the real to be." — KrishnamurtiThis is a very bold assertion! ONLY if the mind is utterly still can the real be. It needs to be tested in the Lab of Self, see if it holds true. Without this testing, it's just fortune-cookie wisdom.In order to test it, we first need to understand what K intended it to mean. What is an utterly still mind? What is the real? Continue
Started by Rick. Last reply by kant on Tuesday.
“God cannot be known. It is totally unknown. It cannot be experienced. If you experience it, it is no longer God, truth. It is only when there is no experiencer, no experience, that reality can come into being. Only when the mind is in the state of the unknown, does the unknown come into being. Only when there is the wiping away of all experience, of all knowledge, is the mind truly still, and in that stillness which is immeasurable, that which has no name comes into being.”Jiddu Krishnamurti…Continue
Started by Thalia. Last reply by Shiva Kebeka on Monday.
One can't move ahead as long as thought is there in man.but thoughts do dominate a mind.To be free of thoughts , nature and structure of thought must be fully understood , then only can there be a possibility for man's having a thoughtless state.This requires great efforts(Sadhana) for a man to be totally free of thoughts.Can such freedom be attained?If this is not attained now then there is great tragedy only.Continue
Started by kant Mar 16.
When I say something it starts out sounding like a lecture, doesn’t it? It might sound like a lecture because lacking in understanding, we are looking for information and instruction. You would prefer it to be something more intimate, something you can personally examine and contest. Very strangely, some people even object to anyone saying anything at all, and have in mind a talk where it is one consistent voice.When people speak or write, there is to start with, all the expectations I might…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens Mar 9.
When we use the word spirit or spiritual, it is interpreted like all words, as being something in a material world. There probably is no way out of this conundrum. I rarely use the word spirit preferring to talk about passion, or the flame of living, yet even these are again interpreted within a materialistic way of thinking.I might say the child is not yet corrupt, but among adults the word child is misunderstood by the corrupted adult. The child may not be informed about the material and…Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens Mar 7.
. . . I began wondering how K Dialogue Groups may differ from what I'm familiar with: Bohm Dialogue groups. Can anyone point me to a description of a K Dialogue Group or do they vary according to whomever facilitates them? Here's how Bohm Dialogue is described according to the Wikipedia entry: --------------------Bohm Dialogue (also known as Bohmian Dialogue or "Dialogue in the Spirit of David Bohm") is a freely flowing group …Continue
Started by Ferdinand Roseboom. Last reply by Bob Hearns Mar 1.
What is it that draws attention to what one is doing? What is it that catches an annoyance, an agitation, a frustration, and also realises it is within oneself - the same place for both the action and the awareness? As in the brain, both mental activities, and not a response to something external? Continue
Started by Peter Stephens. Last reply by Peter Stephens Feb 28.